2010年8月3日星期二

With Or Without You ----- U2


Song Title : With Or Without You
Artist : U2 (Irish Band) 
From The Album : The Joshua Tree (1987)
Released : 21 March 1987
Format : 7" vinyl, 12" vinyl, cassette, CD
Recorded :  Danesmoate in Dublin, Ireland, 1986
Genre : Rock
Length : 4:53
Label : Island
Producer : Brian Eno, Daniel Lanois

1. 這大概是我最喜歡的10首英文歌之一!而U2更是我最喜歡的Band,擁有他們所有Original Album CD,一切也由這首歌開始!

2. 80s也有聽過U2的歌,相信第一次接觸是在一些自己買的英文雜錦碟中!不過聽過這歌後,我便首次買他們的大碟"The Joshua Tree"(也是我擁有他們的唯一一隻黑膠碟),此碟是他們在美國的breakthrough大碟,雖然他們在英國已頗紅!此碟結果也成為他們最買得的碟,亦從此國際知名,踏上世界性的成名之路!當然,此碟也順理成章是我最愛的十大英文唱片,全碟沒一隻不好聽的歌!
         "The Joshua Tree" Album Cover

3. 當時我也是跟美國潮流聽歌,紅不到美國的我便少接觸(到我頗大我才醒覺英國的音樂是最得的,而且紅出來的愛爾蘭band或歌手我也很喜歡,如The Cranberries/ Sinead 0' Connor/ Damien Rice)!而此歌令他們首嘗billboard冠軍的滋味!

4. "With or Without You"在我心中一直長青,不同時間聽也聽出不同的味道!歌名也感受到那種dilemma,與我長期處於的狀態與心情不謀而合,正如主音Bono所說,就是兩者(任何兩種沒法並存的東西)之間所產生的tension define了我!
"The Joshua Tree" Album inlay

5. 一般的理解,這是首悲情歌!歌詞最深刻的當然是那句: "I can't live with or without you",就是那種難以解釋的狀態,甚至有些人是沒法領會又或是不曾領會的一種心情!我也不花太多唇舌去講了,領會過的自然就明白!我只能簡單的具體舉個例:有些人你很渴望與他一起,不過真正在一起時,你又不感到特別開心,甚至有壓力,不過當他不在身邊,你又極渴望與他再一起,結果成為一種衝不破的循環,而你就是活在那種兩難的tension中!就如另一句我很喜歡的歌詞: "Nothing to win and nothing left to lose", 表達的也是同一種心情吧!

6. 不過,Bono說過這歌的創作源頭是因為當時他感到家庭事業兩難存,因為長年累月的錄音/宣傳及各地的tour令他physically不能在家,所以有感而發!而另一句頗impress的歌詞是: "and you give yourself away", 大概是說把自己完全暴露於人前又或是付出了整個自己,這卻是不能自己的,令人產生一種很強烈的無奈感!

7. 不得不提的是此歌的編曲,近乎完美!由很沉的base開始,已能帶出那種心情,而Bono低沈的聲線也極有感染力,據說此歌突破了他以往的唱法,也擴大了他可能的音域,而副歌愈見激昂,像一種淒美的控訴,編曲也愈見複雜!末段Bono聲嘶力竭的叫喊,音樂也是最豐富也最強烈,是整首歌的高潮位,也見證了Band Sound的力量與震撼心靈的感染力!結尾又是另一絕,可說是我聽了咁耐歌其中一隻印象最深的ending,一般歌fade out時音樂就開始簡化,不過此歌當到了你感到要fade out的時候,音樂卻忽然再豐富起來,增強了intensity,然後才真正的fade out,令人有一種似末還有的空虛遊離感!

8. 原來Bono創作了此歌後,由於在編曲方面總是未盡完美,曾經想過放棄此歌,幾經波折,經過各隊員的反覆嘗試,終於給他們找到了適合的編曲,結果還把此歌作為"The Joshua Tree"大碟的第一隻single,U2的音樂也從此得到發揚光大,最起碼是多了我這個一直追隨的fans!!!
 
9. "With or Without You" Lyrics:
 
See the stone set in your eyes
See the thorn twist in your side
I wait for you

Sleight of hand and twist of fate
On a bed of nails she makes me wait
And I wait without you

With or without you
With or without you

Through the storm we reach the shore
You give it all but I want more
And I'm waiting for you

With or without you
With or without you
I can't live
With or without you

And you give yourself away
And you give yourself away
And you give
And you give
And you give yourself away

My hands are tied
My body bruised, she's got me with
Nothing to win and
Nothing left to lose

And you give yourself away
And you give yourself away
And you give
And you give
And you give yourself away

With or without you
With or without you
I can't live
With or without you

With or without you
With or without you
I can't live
With or without you
With or without you

在此歌的現場表演中,Bono偶然會於末段加上以下歌詞:
"We'll shine like stars in the summer night/ We'll shine like stars in the winter light/ One heart, one hope, one love"

U2 (1987)

U2 (2010)
10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmSdTa9kaiQ&feature=related (Music Video)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ye8GLPUVsM&feature=related (Live Performance 2001)
      (希望各女讀者千萬要一看此Live,  我覺得每個女孩也希望是台上女主角!躺著唱難於發聲,我會原諒Bono唱得失準!有說Bono每次揀台下女觀眾(是,一定是女觀眾)一定是靚女,我覺得一點問題也沒有,這樣才不虛偽,我也不會為了討好其他觀眾,勉強令人感覺人人機會均等!我不認識她,就只有與她台上的幾分鐘,當然是揀自己喜歡的!)

"Romeo & Juliet" Soundtrack Album Cover

p.s. 在寫這篇時反而不是播著"With Or Without You",而是今天剛買的"Romeo & Juliet"(1968)的soundtrack黑膠碟,而且是日版,當然就會聽到我很喜歡的"What Is A Youth"!我突然想起,似乎我未試過買一隻碟是真真正正於我出世前出版的(所有oldies的CD其實也只是1982年以後出版的),這次應是第一次!"Romeo & Juliet"的故事又似乎巧妙地與"With Or Without You"有點connection般!

29 則留言:

  1. 雖不是任何人、樂隊的歌迷,在我僅有的認識,U2 當然係經典。不知道此曲的現場表演如斯正斗,同Bono碌地沙喎,好介紹!

    更經典的是永遠的"Romeo & Juliet",戲中兩主角絕對後無來者!你喜歡女主角嗎?

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  2. 其實我之後會再講U2,原因再談!尤其是Bono托鰓的含情眼神,真係乜都死!

    "Romeo & Juliet"女主當然喜歡,我記得看此戲係好細個的事,當時已覺得她靚得很,同埋最記得係露台偷會那場戲!同意她演的Juliet是後無來者!不過,反而男主角相對來說印象不太深,可能那時我的心思也落在女主角身上吧!原來她現在已59歲了!

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  3. Bono 今日是大慈善家,上台領獎爆粗,fcc想罰電視台錢,遭上訴法院推翻,fcc仍要再上訴。係Bono呀,有人會介意嗎?!天下廣管局一樣蠢!

    對,奧莉花荷茜59歲了(男的叫李安納偉定!),你我都不是小孩啦!到底甚麼改變了,甚麼還一樣?

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  4. 我也不知有這回事!官僚就會咁,仲要應酬D complainants, 沒法子!

    哈哈,妳都用中文翻譯演員名,證明了就是那個年代的記憶!

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  5. 仲有,我寫時先知道原來配樂師Nino Rota是Fellini電影的御用配樂,還有經典的Godfather配樂也是他的作品,不過他已去世!

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  6. 竟然在"Toy Story 3"中看到那場露台場,好邪!竟然係佢地做主角,笑死!

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  7. Yes, that's the old time memories, when i was young and listened a lot to the radio .... (commercials!).
    Oh, it's nino rota? i didn't know that . Something like what you said, we mostly started early with American stuff, then realised that European is the true master. that's the influence of Hollywood, i guess.
    oh, i must see Toy Story 3 soon. everybody loves it, it seems.

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  8. 我仿似聽到妳在唱Carpenters的"Yesterday Once More", one of my all time favourites!!!

    Maybe I am not "everybody"! I can't say I love it but it's still a good movie!

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  9. @Sandy:連我乜都彈一餐嘅人,都覺得Toy Story 3好睇!也許由於係卡通片,又以玩具為主角,那份只有在夜闌人靜才敢擁有的純真,會突然爆發出來!讓自己毫無條件、毫無反抗餘地的靠向他們。

    與其說麥兜是成人童話,(哈哈,我知道你討厭麥兜一族,不過最近他們已人氣不再,被聾貓、癲噹搶去風頭了)我覺得Toy Story才是真正的成人卡通,因為他們是演給有年紀、有遺憾、有失落、有傷痕的人看的,而他們要做的事,就是讓成年人敢於回復童心,敢於為丟失了一隻熊仔而落淚。平常誰敢說出口?可是在看TS3的時候,每滴眼淚都不會被取笑。

    而且我個人很喜歡「信賴」這事兒,在TS3裏,woody相信Andy,LotsO'相信Daisy,Jessie相信Buzz,人與人之間的信任很美麗,這也是唯有在卡通片上出現,才不會惹人質疑。(因此我也很喜歡Bolt的原因,不管別人說女主角已忘了Bolt,牠都不相信。不過我發覺沒有太多人喜歡Bolt這卡通片)

    咦?點解我在這裏寫這麼多TS3?入錯門口添...

    @Jack:那段Live果然是女性的夢想!不過我寧願這不要發生在我身上,讓我做個旁觀者去幻想那美感就更好,因為若然真的被選中,只會驚慌、徬徨、失控...完全不能好好感受那時刻。也許鬼妹會好一點,她們比較懂發洩感情,不會顧慮那麼多,攬了至算!

    關於What is a youth這首歌,在我最早的記憶裏它已經是充滿"炒豆聲",似乎從未聽過潔淨版,所以感覺上它本來就是一首"炒豆歌",請問你手頭上那黑膠也是很"炒豆"嗎?

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  10. 我好似無睇Bolt! 關於Toy Story 3, 我似乎沒有你們般體會咁深,也許真的受心情影響,難以投入那種開心的氣氛!

    還有一隻Bono與女歌迷一起在台上的歌,今次係跳舞,真係開心死!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWBKBkEJQRk&feature=related

    原來妳喜歡說炒豆,我通常會說"有沙石"!
    炒豆聲不太嚴重,這就是日本版勁之處,通常日版除了靚聲,也好保存,而且保值!

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  11. 咁你幾時/點樣先會冇咁唔開心?或者...好滿足於唔開心,因此變得開心?

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  12. I don't know really but I think now a bit better!
    後者的可能性好低!

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  13. 好彩...你嘅答案比我想像中好:)
    我以為你會話:「never!我也不想開心返!」(←多感嘆號係你嘅特式)

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  14. 因為不懂在電腦找標點符號而已,妳無發覺我寫中文用錯晒標點咩?!Word又未裝,希望裝得成,通常我裝嘢失敗居多!

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  15. 我突然發覺這個月我見熟客嘅頻率係多過我的朋友!

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  16. 在中文模式時,同時按ctrl + alt + "," 咁就會出現中文符號表...
    (原來因為搵唔到符號...有時睇見你的文字咁多感嘆號,覺得充滿了憤怒,令人有點不舒服)

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  17. Thx so much! 我都話自己電腦白痴!
    不過,有時真係表達不滿!原來會令人不安,我會注意吓!

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  18. 係我個人問題,我都話我特別怕人發脾氣...其他人應該覺得冇乜野~ ;)

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  19. 我係會發脾氣, 不過好少發, 發親就好顛!

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  20. oh, i've been out of touch for this little while and you two (U2!)were talking .... Well, i took 2 days off, had listened to 'Joshua Tree' twice, lied on the beach at Shek O for a day,and got a new pair of lens. But, regrettably, yet to find time to watch TS3, but i will.
    whatsmore, i've also watched the dvd of 'angel heart', thanks to U 2's recommendation. Jack, you're so right, how come i would miss the film at that time? Alan Parker is an expert in motivating mood & atmosphere (audience and the film alike). the sex and violence, and the sense of fear must have been unprecedented for people like me, if i were able to see the film in 1987 (wow, 1987!!). Molly, i don't think Pearl would have kept those scenes. the most memorable part, and the most terrible, too, is the long polished fingernails of robert deniro! Freaky!
    Pardon my laziness to go back to 'Inception' page, i slept thro almost 1/2 the film for reasons mentioned by Molly. Too much chasing and gun fights la, and there are 5 (or 4) levels tim ar. Agreed that the film was too 'well' structured, meaning not enough imaginations, 唔夠癲囉!
    ps. jack, get a life at Shek O, you won't regret it. life could be beautiful, sometimes.

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  21. @Sandy:
    1. wowww~ 我一定要睇吓原裝版的Angel Heart,我問吓我弟弟有冇先,如果冇,想問你借來看可以嗎?(上次的「8部半」等過帶工程已經搞掂好一段時間了,不如遲吓約你同Jack吃飯,順手派發小妹的新書給你地?)

    2. yeah yeah yeah~ 去沙灘hae一個下午,超級正!撞啱你放假,一定超開心啦你!我都會不時去馬灣曬吓我嘅一身米芝蓮架~

    3. 早前林奕華在fb寫了兩段關於Christopher Nolan的評語,wow我覺得簡直說進我心裏!我會將之post在Inception那段blog文。

    4. 題外話:有沒有看前幾天陸離批梁文道、葉輝反擊陸離的筆仗?好精彩啊!若想看,我可以把Link貼在你的fb上~ ;))))

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  22. Molly, your suggestions are all great:

    please post everything for i am living in a cave these days, missing a lot.

    i can lend you 'angel heart', and look forward to seeing you guys soon. : )

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  23. hii Sandy,

    thxxxx for sharing your dvd. i'll ask my bro first coz i may keep it a long time before returning to u. :ppp

    just posted the links of that 筆仗 on your fb wall la. have a look at lunchtime. it's interesting.

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  24. ps. 香港沙灘妙齡三點式美女其多,八九十后人材(身材呀!)仔仔,阿 jack 萬勿錯過呵!

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  25. 我拍我到時忍不住周圍偷拍,失禮街坊!

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  26. Molly, 那麼妳真的要看Angel Heart原裝版,電視版絕對會剪到九彩,破壞套戲最正的地方!

    約食飯好呀,不過真係要遲D,我唔想以我現在的模樣及心情見妳們,只怕會破壞氣氛!

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  27. Sandy,很少見妳談近況,似乎很愉快!

    妳是否第一次聽整隻"The Joshua Tree"呀,會否因為我讚得太勁反而會失望呢?

    Ha, 妳1987真的miss了很多東西,除了Angel Heart仲有The Joshua Tree!

    Angel Heart看完好似個故事unsettled,與看完後帶著的心情是一樣的!太厲害!我好多年無再睇過,睇翻我相信仲係會驚!

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  28. 我對 Joshua Tree 沒有失望,只感覺自己早年太懵懂,竟會對 U2 如此水過鴨背 (my sister should have got the cassette tape then),又對 Angel Heart 混然不知,我的1987,自己知自己事,慘然。

    至於近況,跟往日也無甚差別,只因到沙灘遇上陽光美好,春色無限,心為之開罷了。(thanks to Joshua Tree, too. and HMV has these big DVD sale. $35 @ ya.)

    anyway, 幾時有 mood ,想做乜野,順其自然啦。

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  29. 是啊,以前的HMV我只是逛吓,絕對不會幫襯,不過近年可能生意難撈,偶然佢D特價CD/DVD都會執到些好嘢,有時仲可能平過二手!

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